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emeralds
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posted 11-05-2001 06:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for emeralds   Edit/Delete Message Copy This Message   Reply w/Quote Search for more posts by emeralds Visit emeralds's Homepage!
I am new to the world of automated testing, and static analysis tools.

I have been told that Java is seen to be a safer language that c/c++, therefore how important are these tools in reference to Java?

Which tools you are using?
What do you see going on in your company ref Java, or others in the industry.?

The list of tools I am looking at are:
QA Systems, Parasoft, M Squared Technologies, Codework, Sitraka, Compuware, Rational, Mercury Interactive, Segue.

Can anyone point me to any feedback of which are the best for Java and why?

Kind Regards

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mcraves
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posted 11-06-2001 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mcraves   Edit/Delete Message Copy This Message   Reply w/Quote Search for more posts by mcraves Visit mcraves's Homepage!
Compuware offers not just a automated testing solution, but has other tools that check code coverage, help you in development and streamline your applications. All of these tools work together to produce a full end-to-end solution. Wide java and C++ support will be a direct help for you. Products like QACenter and OptimalJ would be of interest.

Contact Compuware directly for more detailed help, on site evaluations and consultations at www.compuware.com/products/qacenter or at 800.521.9353. Best regards.

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broop
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posted 11-06-2001 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for broop   Edit/Delete Message Copy This Message   Reply w/Quote Search for more posts by broop Visit broop's Homepage!
Wow from "mcraves". 5 new posts that are at the top of the duscussion lists and every one of them is an advertisement and plug for Compuware's tools.....

I love it when sales reps and corporate employees of Compuware find these boards.

It's great. Hey emeralds, consider the source. We've all used different tool sets and we've all had differeing results with those tools. Is there one tool that's better than the others? Nope.

Is there ever going to be? Nope. Each tool has specific traits that are more beneficial to differing testing needs.

I used Compuware's tools for close to 4 years (I'm also an ex-employee), I'm currently working with Mercury Interactive and performed trials with Segue and Rational as well.

Each of the products had strong points. Each has weak points as well.

As far as Java, I think they're all weak because none of the tools listed above work on a Mac. That's the main reason my company writes in Java (cross platform support).

I like Compuware's approach of just dropping in their QARun or TestPartner and they will hook into the app without having to add any additional support.

But they lag way behind the market when adding in new support issues for current and future releases of JVM's. I think this is because they have to change their whole testing product in order to add the new support.

Whereas Mercury's WinRunner uses an add-in for Java that hooks in only when you tell it to. They are able to update this add-in faster than Compuware can update their whole application. Again, this doesn't make one better than the other.

My best suggestion would be to perfrom a trial of each automation software you can get a hold of... pressure Mercury - they will do trials.

Good luck with your task.

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QAGirl
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posted 11-06-2001 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for QAGirl   Edit/Delete Message Copy This Message   Reply w/Quote Search for more posts by QAGirl
quote:
Originally posted by emeralds:

The list of tools I am looking at are:
QA Systems, Parasoft, M Squared Technologies, Codework, Sitraka, Compuware, Rational, Mercury Interactive, Segue.

Can anyone point me to any feedback of which are the best for Java and why?

Kind Regards


Keep in mind as well that many of the tools you're listing here are designed for very different types of testing or validation. From what I can see, the first set you've listed are used for unit testing, and the second are larger-scale functional testing of an application through the user interface.

It has been stated before, but mostly because it is the only way to get the tool that will work the best for you - the benefit of any tool is how well it works in your environment. Once you've chosen a 'tool of choice' in one area, look at integration with the other tools you might be using - Sitraka and Mercury are partners with very tight integration, for example, and I'm sure there are similar partnerships among other vendors.

Once you've narrowed things down, or if you seem to be having issues, post questions here or in the forums specific to the tool, and maybe we can provide more help.

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tmpalaniselvam
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posted 11-13-2001 04:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tmpalaniselvam   Edit/Delete Message Copy This Message   Reply w/Quote Search for more posts by tmpalaniselvam Visit tmpalaniselvam's Homepage!
Hi!
Automated tools are selected based on your requirements.
In Java, free software JUnit is available to unit testing.
For functional testing, WinRunner(Mercury Interactive)
Silk Test(Seague)
Test mentor - http://www.silvermark.com/Product/tmjava
Tcl/tk
I'm not aware of Rational Robot. But you couldn't use Rational Visual Test to test Java application.

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Thanks & Regards,
Palani.

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Bfantina
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posted 01-03-2003 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bfantina   Edit/Delete Message Copy This Message   Reply w/Quote Search for more posts by Bfantina
We've looked at Mercury (WinRunner), Segue (Silktest) and Radview, and will soon review Rational Robot. For Mercury and Segue, reps. were willing to come in for a proof of concept. Radview provided a thorough on-line demo., and we will be downloading Robot for a 20-day (I think) trial. Call the companies you are familiar with and arrange a time for them to come in and work on your test system. We found that just because a product works on the browser versions we have doesn't mean that it works effectively with our code. And as I mentioned in a posting on another thread, check out the company's financial status. There is no point in getting a great tool if there will be no one to support it in 6 months.

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geoffdinsdale
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posted 01-03-2003 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for geoffdinsdale   Edit/Delete Message Copy This Message   Reply w/Quote Search for more posts by geoffdinsdale Visit geoffdinsdale's Homepage!
Rational has a separate tool for functional testing of Java, RobotJ.

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Geoff Dinsdale
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AJ
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posted 01-03-2003 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AJ   Edit/Delete Message Copy This Message   Reply w/Quote Search for more posts by AJ Visit AJ's Homepage!
This is a very old thread!

Closed!

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