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Del_dr
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posted 10-11-2001 05:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Del_dr   Edit/Delete Message Copy This Message   Reply w/Quote Search for more posts by Del_dr
Any idea about pro/contra for using an engine while testing with actions words?

Thanks,
Del

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Elfriede Dustin
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posted 10-13-2001 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elfriede Dustin   Edit/Delete Message Copy This Message   Reply w/Quote Search for more posts by Elfriede Dustin Visit Elfriede Dustin's Homepage!
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Originally posted by Del_dr:
Any idea about pro/contra for using an engine while testing with actions words?

Thanks,
Del


How else would you implement action word testing efficiently? Action word testing will require some sort of an "engine", driver, etc.
What else do you have in mind?

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posted 10-15-2001 02:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Del_dr   Edit/Delete Message Copy This Message   Reply w/Quote Search for more posts by Del_dr
hi,

thanks for your answer...now I see that I wasn't quite clear
the idea is that I want to implement the testing with actions words (of course with an engine) and I started to look for advantages and disadvantages about this type of automation...my problem is that is quite difficult to convince my colegues (including my manager) that this will be a good way to do the automation. They are complaining about a lot of things, like 'the time to build the engine' and others things that I don't want to mention here... they don't understand what will be benefits in the future and they don't understand that the automation of the test cases will be done in a very easy way, the structure will be a robust one, the maintenance will be easier and so on...
it is a long time since we discuss this and it started to drive me crazy so that's why I asked for more authorized opinions...

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Steve Devonport
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posted 10-15-2001 05:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steve Devonport   Edit/Delete Message Copy This Message   Reply w/Quote Search for more posts by Steve Devonport
My input would be: Do you understand the benefits and pitfalls of this process, it is not as simple as people seem to think?

Try to look at the process under discussion from his/her point of view, ie how much will this cost me, what are the risks to me and my team if this works/doesn't work.

Finally I would ask you to take some time and try to assess the process that you want to implement from a business risk perspective and talk in those terms to your management, you may be surprised at the response. At the very least it shows you've done some research into the subject.

Hope this helps,

Steve.

(jaded but proven).

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Del_dr
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posted 10-15-2001 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Del_dr   Edit/Delete Message Copy This Message   Reply w/Quote Search for more posts by Del_dr
Good point Steve!
I already started to study the risks.

Thanks a lot,
Del

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Elfriede Dustin
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quote:
Originally posted by Del_dr:
hi,

thanks for your answer...now I see that I wasn't quite clear
the idea is that I want to implement the testing with actions words (of course with an engine) and I started to look for advantages and disadvantages about this type of automation...my problem is that is quite difficult to convince my colegues (including my manager) that this will be a good way to do the automation. They are complaining about a lot of things, like 'the time to build the engine' and others things that I don't want to mention here... they don't understand what will be benefits in the future and they don't understand that the automation of the test cases will be done in a very easy way, the structure will be a robust one, the maintenance will be easier and so on...
it is a long time since we discuss this and it started to drive me crazy so that's why I asked for more authorized opinions...


Also take a look at this related discussion: http://www.qaforums.com/Forum34/HTML/000673.html

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Del_dr
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posted 10-16-2001 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Del_dr   Edit/Delete Message Copy This Message   Reply w/Quote Search for more posts by Del_dr
Thanks a lot Elfriede!

I already studied them all and other documents that I found on the web.
I also ordered your book and I'll have it this week.

For Steve...I saw that you was also interested to implement this approach. It was successfully?

Thanks,
Del

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