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yarsul
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posted 07-27-2001 10:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yarsul   Edit/Delete Message Copy This Message   Reply w/Quote Search for more posts by yarsul
hi,
I am looking for an advice -what tools seems to be best to test mainframe applications?
Thanks in advance...

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JerrySchwartz
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posted 07-27-2001 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JerrySchwartz   Edit/Delete Message Copy This Message   Reply w/Quote Search for more posts by JerrySchwartz Visit JerrySchwartz's Homepage!
I've been successful with WinRunner (from Mercury Interactive) with its TE add-on for functional testing. Load testing is a different story. Look into Compuware, they are famous for their mainframe test tools.

WinRunner is expensive, and I don't think I'd buy it only for its mainframe abilities.
If all you need is a record-playback engine, you can find cheaper.

Good Luck,
Jerry

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Adrian Z
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posted 08-03-2001 04:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Adrian Z   Edit/Delete Message Copy This Message   Reply w/Quote Search for more posts by Adrian Z
We work here in Switzerland with QAHiperstation from Compuware. It works like QARun, but with REXX. More can you see under QARun ==> QAhiperstation.

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posted 08-09-2001 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sbrezny   Edit/Delete Message Copy This Message   Reply w/Quote Search for more posts by sbrezny Visit sbrezny's Homepage!
I used Rational Robot 6.1 for testing of a terminal/character mode application, back-end was a Unix server. It worked well and was flexible enough, but we had to do a lot of screen scrape type of tests and verify text messages.

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kartor
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posted 08-10-2001 06:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kartor   Edit/Delete Message Copy This Message   Reply w/Quote Search for more posts by kartor
I used hiperstation, with IBM 390, to do a REGRESSION test.
now i am wondering what is the automated testing tool can be used with Tandem? I am looking for a suggestion and any suggestion will be welcom.

Thanks

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posted 08-28-2001 06:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WouTerK   Edit/Delete Message Copy This Message   Reply w/Quote Search for more posts by WouTerK
Most Terminal Emulators have the ability to record and play macro's or scripts. These scripts can be made rather complex using VisualBasic-like scripting.
Using DynaComm we have created several regression tests in the past. DynaComm isn't the most brilliant TE, but the scripting possibilities are quite good.
Since you need the emulator to work with your Tandem, it's probably the cheapest solution too.
Another pro we found was that the scenario's we wrote were played at greater speed than with an external Testtool. This is due to the fact that the TE itself recognizes line25 commands while the external tool needed to probe once in a while to see a change in activity.

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wooks
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posted 11-09-2001 08:40 AM         Edit/Delete Message Copy This Message   Reply w/Quote Search for more posts by wooks
Back in the days when QARun was still called Automator QA for Windows I was recruited to automate an a mainframe application running via a terminal emulator.

2 months into the project we still could not get it to recognise all data on the screen so I started looking at the scripting capabilities of the emulator. Turns out that we could do all we needed to with a combination of VB and the emulator scripting capabilities.

This was a while back now. I'd like to know whether there are any particular features that specialist testing tools provide that facilitate TE testing. I am trying to figure out what would make a predominantly mainframe site would want to splash out on a full blown object based test tool.

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posted 11-09-2001 08:47 AM         Edit/Delete Message Copy This Message   Reply w/Quote Search for more posts by wooks
Sorry to repeat this. Want to get in on the maling list and newsgroup forums.

Back in the days when QARun was still called Automator QA for Windows I was recruited to automate an a mainframe application running via a terminal emulator.
2 months into the project we still could not get it to recognise all data on the screen so I started looking at the scripting capabilities of the emulator. Turns out that we could do all we needed to with a combination of VB and the emulator scripting capabilities.

This was a while back now. I'd like to know whether there are any particular features that specialist testing tools provide that facilitate TE testing. I am trying to figure out what would make a predominantly mainframe site would want to splash out on a full blown object based test tool.


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ART
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posted 11-09-2001 09:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ART   Edit/Delete Message Copy This Message   Reply w/Quote Search for more posts by ART
As far as I Know, they are 2 categories
of testing tools for Mainframe :
- Really specific Mainframe testing tools,
like Compuware QAHiperstation, which
runs ON the Mainframe, and do every
functionnal and load testing possible
check www.compuware.com

- Client/server and web testing tools,
which includes Compuware QARun and
Mercury Winrunner, which can run testing
scenarios from a Terminal Window on a PC,
to attack the Mainframe.

In that second category, Compuware has
a differenciator, with its QAdirector tool
which can launch testing scenarios from
the PC and the mainframe coordinated.

Those tools includes now "synchronizing"
features, to help the recording and playback
of scenarios.

Unfortunately, there is no "Object oriented"
approach with a Terminal window: you
can only do a character or string recognition.

I hope it helps

regards

ART

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posted 11-09-2001 09:54 AM         Edit/Delete Message Copy This Message   Reply w/Quote Search for more posts by wooks
Thanks for the wider perspective on this. I'd forgotten about mainframe based tools.

I know WinRunner treats TE fields as though they are objects but I think that just complicates things.
My gut feel is that unless they are a no additional cost option traditional object based test tools would not be the first place I'd look for a solution to this type of testing (all other things being equal).

I'd be interested to know your thoughts.

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